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OK, here the question. When useing BP's Extreme spreader inserts, do you drop the X insert into the wad cup before or after the shot is dropped? Does it make any difference?
Thanks, John

Joined: 09 Jul 2009 Posts: 510 Location: Central CT

Before, if you try to insert them afterward, there will be a stream of four letter words that follow and you will never do it that way again.

Member Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 1545 Location: Michigan

Use the Polywad insert, it's so much easier.

Member Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 1545 Location: Michigan

Don't give up on the X treem inserts. Depending on wad & load, you might try lining edges of X treem up with slits of wad petals and be sure to allow enough room (about 1/8 oz of shot less). I use them both and have come to prefer the X treem in my 1 to 1 1/16oz (actual) 16ga hunt loads with hard #7 shot.

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Member Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 1545 Location: Michigan

Joined: 09 Jul 2009 Posts: 510 Location: Central CT

I have played around with spreader loads. My scores never improved and I never killed more birds because I used them, not sure that there is any real good reason for them.

Maybe at close range, under 20 yards, so you don't destroy a nice game bird dinner? Other than that, spreader loads are just one more thing to make shooting more complicated than it needs to be. Never known a real good shooter that ever used them.

Just my opinion.

Member Joined: 16 Nov 2006 Posts: 1338

Thanks for the input guys. Thought I might try them at an up-coming sporting clays competition. I intend useing them on 1 station only (fur & feather) ---- True pair coming fast from right to left a rabbit and a grouse at 15 yards or less. I usually shoot 75% on it but thought if I could increase a couple of targets or so it would be a bonus -- nothing to loose. Wink

Cheers, John

Member Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 13 Location: CO

I use the 1/2" of plastic straw inserted in the shot column trick. Makes shooting skeet with my Mod/Full Model 90 much more enjoyable. I tried the poly wad but didn't think the added costs was worth it.

Member Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 1545 Location: Michigan

Member Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 2350 Location: West MI

Brush busting in thick cover I always use a spreader out first. 10-20 yard shots is all I get sometimes and absolutly hate destroying an animal to the point of making yote snacks. The polywad disk does the trick; roll crimp OSC and great spread. A rabbit kill last fall was at 16 paces and when cleaned had only 6 of my #7 pellets in it from a SKT choke; I wouldn't leave home without them. Since I use them as OCS's the cost isn't an issue for me; 2 birds with one.....

Take care, Mike

Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 184 Location: Dover-Foxcroft, ME

Well, I finally got around to patterning some spreaders loads with 1/8 oz shot atop the polywad discs.

16ga: RGLs, 16 gr GD, 3/4 oz #8s, 16 ga disc, another 1/8 oz on top (7/8 oz total). Whether voids are an artifact of true cyl patterns or not, the patterns looked really good at 15 yds through my .012 M-12 "mod".

12 ga: STS, 16.5 gr Claydot, 7/8 oz #7.5s, 12 ga disc, 1/8 oz on top (1 oz total). Again, really nice at 15 yds through my .030 1903 Daly-Sauer's left tube.

I ran comparisons without the extra 1/8 oz on top...........patterns at 15 yds were OK, but no question these would run out of gas right at 20 yds. This 20 yd "wall" had deterred me from using spreaders.....until now.

Looks like I've arrived at shotgun Nirvana - am all set for Oct 1.

Thanks to Mike Campbell!!

Sam