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Member Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1975

The old activ wads 1628 1632 are now cheddites. The gualandi 1 oz wad is the same as BPI's SG16. Bpi's Z-16 is a Baschieri and Pellagri TUWZ2M16.

Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 224

spr310...I don't know if you are a member of the LPG, but the new data file has a section that refers to the G28 as the SG16 (in the wad identification page). I think this is incorrect, and if so, how do we get the LPG to correct this?

Perhaps this is not the correct place to ask, as the LPG is a seperate entity. But, I know a lot of us belong to the LPG.

Member Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1975

The BPI SG 16 is a Gualandi wad. If you go to Precision reloading's site you can see the picture of the wad. Also the SG16 wad even has Gualandi written in the cup. Also see the Band P wads. You can see that there 16 gauge wad is the Z16 wad of BPI. Also Grafs and sons has the cheddite wads. You can see by the picture that they are the same as the old activ wad. Close to the B & P wad, but a different base. On the speadsheet on my websites I have the wads cross referenced. I think I will also post some pictures of the different wads.

I posted pictures of the wads in the components section of the spreadsheet that you can link to on my website.

Member Joined: 16 Nov 2006 Posts: 1338

Member Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1975

Member Joined: 16 Nov 2006 Posts: 1338

Member Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1975

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SPR310,

Where is that information that you scaned on the Active wads from? I'm curious?

Member Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1975

I got a sample bag the new WW16AA clone from Claybuster last spring. The shot cup turns out to be even deeper and roomier than the SP16 wad shot cup.

The Claybuster's OAL is longer, but I think the wad can be shortened by trimming away the center and using solid card wads between the shot cup and the base for some superior 1-1/4 ounce loads. This will require a careful approach and some thorough testing, but it is one possibility.

I also have some of the old 1-1/8/1-1/4 ounce 16 ga Herter's wads on hand. We discussed these wads last spring. They work well unmodified for my 1-1/4 ounce shot loads in a Fiocchi hull with plenty of room for a safe charge of Blue Dot and a good folded crimp.

I won't offer my data since it is not published, and the wads are not made anymore. I also advise using such a potent load only in a stout, modern shot gun. They are not for older SxS guns or pre-WWII vintage repeaters either. The recoil alone might prove too much for old wood. Any 1 -1/4 ounce load out of a 7 pound or lighter shot gun is going to have an effect at both ends. If anyone is recoil sensitive, look elsewhere. They ain't for you.

I advise anyone interested to proceed with caution. This is advanced reloading for the experienced. Newbies need to stick with safe published data for a while. Choose a strong once fired hull from among the roomiest ones available. (The Fiocchi 2-3/4 inch hull is a good candidate.) Pick only from the slowest powders known to be safe enough for use in a baby magnum 16 ga load (I picked Blue Dot, because I'm familiar with it and have used it safely and successfully in published 1-1/4 ounce loads). Reduce the powder charge to well below what has proven safe and has worked in a similar published load. Work the charge up slowly and carefully from a safely reduced starting point, and have the loads pressure tested along the way to see how it's going.

Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Posts: 74 Location: las vegas NV

Here are my pics of my G-28, bag and info book

Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Posts: 74 Location: las vegas NV

well i guess i don't know how to post pics
If anybody would like i will Email

Member Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1975

Here's one of wildlews pictures. Apparently I was wrong. The activ wad in this picture looks like the Gualandi wad. They don't even have the G32 shown so I quess what was sold at Herters years ago was wrong. I know Activ changed hands once or twice. The Activ hull was one of the best for a 1 1/4oz load because of it's capacity. If you still have some of the Activ hulls and want to load 1 1/8oz loads or 1 1/4oz you'll have to use the Rem SP16. Probably a loose fit, but oh well. I had some Activ hulls but they all went to the recycle bin. Had a couple split on me while shooting at some clay pigeons. The Cheddite wads still look like the Activ G32, but I'm not sure anymore.
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