16ga.com ~ View topic - DR16 test results from Precision Reloading

Member Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 123 Location: Oregon

Only one shell per test but all very carefully hand weighed on a digital scale.

The basic recipe:

Cheddite 16 gauge hull
Winchester 209 primer
DR16 wad with about 1/8" filler in bottom of shot cup (I used 1 28 gauge card wad)
1/2 oz. lead

The results:

With 22 gains Red Dot - 10,140 psi, 1711 fps
With 23 grain Red Dot - 11,690 psi, 1802 fps

Point well taken Mike. I guess I should have included the higher test results too which if anything do show a consistent pattern.

The rest of the results are:

24 grains Red Dot - 13,710 psi, 1884 fps
25 grains Red Dot - 13,930 psi, 1930 fps
26 grains Red Dot - 14,080 psi, 1968 fps

And of course don't use any load over 11,500 psi which is SAAMI max for any gun.

Larry

Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 596 Location: 17603

Thanks for sharing Larry!

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Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 224

I see nothing wrong with a company giving you results from a single shell tested. It is not their responsibility what you do with the data. I have had single shells tested before. It keeps down the cost when you are just trying to get a real rough idea of where to begin with a new load design. The data is not usuable for anything more than further developing your loads.

I would suggest a retest of the 22 grain load using 3 to 5 shells so you can get a better idea of the consistency of the load. Then you will have more support the load is good. Just a thought. The load looks very interesting.

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Member Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 317

Speaking of data for the DR 16 wad, has any created a comprehensive listing of all known data yet? The group is starting to test some recipes for this wad and we'd prefer not to duplicate other folks efforts, if we can avoid it. We'll be developing low to moderate pressure light loads with moderate velocities (1150-1250 fps).

I would like to see some moderate target loads along lines described by Russ that someone really likes. I have been tinkering with this new DR16 wad for a couple weeks now and have not found anything that is consistent enough to recommend. My sense is that the wad fits too loosely in multi-fired straight walled cases & wad plastic is too stiff to get good seal on firing in low pressure scenerio. I have to say I prefer the SG16 for light loads.

Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 224

Member Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 1545 Location: Michigan

Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 224

Perhaps the LPG could take that load, reduce the powder a grain or two and have it retested to see if it meets their needs and maintains a good consistency between shells.

Faster powders is what is needed for your loads your wanting Bullseye and Redot are the canidates along with Rex -1 , Rex -0 , Nitro 100 ect. ect .

what is it exactly that you want ??? 21 , 23 gram loads at ( 9K - 9.5K ) below that and consistancy and efficency goes south most of the time .

If you want a 1200 fps load at the above I will work up a very consistant load , this is not a hard thing to get done but I have only enough time to get one load done what will it be ?

Regards , Charles

Not all loads are good . You have to work at it to obtain a consistant load with any componets at any velocity .

Joined: 28 Sep 2008 Posts: 168

I've just been using Hogdgons PB data in rem and ched hulls. Other than busting clays haven't done any real tests but seem consistent to me and they do not kick. I do tend to load for the "center" of the data so if I wiggle a little in my loads i'm safe either way

Charles,
Try the Bullseye load.
muzz

I am sure we will find some great loads for the DR16. Hard to please everyone in first few weeks of availablity. Nice to have the new wad to work with .... Thanks to those who developed it. Tried the "couple grains less" approach with Unique, Green Dot & Longshot. All bad ...Longshot predictably the worst. I will try PB if I can find some locally. In a rare article devoted to reloading the 16ga, Tom Ceretto boldly recommended it for "re-proofed" damascus guns & vintage SxS's in June 09 issue of Skeet Shooting Review. Good article with a few reference errors, but worth the read if you can find mag at a club.

Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 596 Location: 17603

Gents,
Here's a link to Ceretto's article.
http://www.mynssa.com/ssr/ssr200906/Ceretto.pdf
Cheers,
R*2