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Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 428

I will look at home for the article that was in Shotgun Sports I believe a few years ago.

A "Square Load" has nothing to do with the height of the shot column. But rather "The Length of The Shot Column" in relation to the bore diameter.

This is what m,akes the 16 and 28 bores superior in performance taking into consideration the reduced bore size and less payload deficiencies.

Hopefully, I can find the article (which was written by a ballistician). If and when I find it, I will post it on this site. Wink

To make a long story short, the 16 bore's shot column length is shorter in relation to the bore diameter, than say a 12 Ga.

Joined: 06 Aug 2009 Posts: 960

Slide,

We have had our head to heads and gotten over them. We are normally in more or less agreement but...

I don't understand why you insist that you can get perfectly symetrical pellet coverage past 25 yards or so.

Take a 1 1/8 oz. load of #6 shot, that is 253 pellets. and evenly distribute them between the 2 areas(21.2" core and the 21.2 to 30" outer ring) in a 30" circle for a 90% pattern at 40 yards. That leaves 228 pellets. Then divide that in 2, and put 114 pellets into each area. Not good my friend.

Joined: 06 Aug 2009 Posts: 960

KD

I really hope you are joking.

....Kinda like the phone pole laying on the ground one guy goes to measure it and the other guy says I don't wnat to know how long it is I want to know how tall it is...

You guys are all full of hooey!! A square load is when the fit of the gun is square on your shoulder - then you will experience less FELT RECOIL.

Hope this helps.

Tom

Whew !!!!!! All YEA ALL need to go shoot a bird .

Next Wednesday I leave for Canada , come go along !!!!!!!!!

Regards , Charles

.650 X .650 is my load .

Best Regards , Charles

Joined: 06 Aug 2009 Posts: 960

Nick,

I didn't know that you drank.

In fact I am pretty sure that you never drink. Only those with beer goggles can get in on this thread. Fuzzy math only applies to folks with beer goggles, hence you are out of here.

The only part the even allows you to be here is that your load can't be .650 X .650, because the wall thickness of the petals on your wad is too thick to make your 3/4 oz. load .650. So basically your statement is a load of horse manure which in itself gets you into the Squareload BS Artist of America Club.

I will be sending out invitations to join this new club, on the first of last year, for this year going backward, but inclusive of the rest of your life for the UNBELIEVABLY low price of, you got it $19.95. Here's how to order!!

Joined: 06 Aug 2009 Posts: 960

Yes

I AM BORED, CAN'T HUNT NOTHIN' IN CT UNTIL OCTOBER. THE SPORTING CLAYS SHOOT ISN'T UNTIL THIS SUNDAY.

THEN NICK COMES IN HERE ASKING TO GO ON A HUNT THAT I CAN'T POSSIBLY GO ON AND TONY STARTS THIS RIDICULOUS SQUARELOAD NONSENSE.

DOGGONE IS IT FRUSTRATING TO HAVE A 16 GAUGE SHOTGUN AND PLENTY OF AMMO AND NOTHING TO SHOOT AT FOR 3 DAYS.

Ok, I feel better now.

This is for real, I got this dumba** neighbor that raises pigeons. I don't mean a dozen, he has got about 5 dozen. He releases these birds and they fly directly over my yard.

That my friends is frustration.

Anybody got some load data for a squareload with mufflers?

I thought you might catch that Mark , but you know what it truly is not very far off the mark of those measurments for the loads that I do shoot , due to not being able to cut pellets in half in the mill I just cannot get em to come out square , so yep your right I will have to settle on .585 X .647 loads when you count the wad .

Folks the ONLY REASON WE SHOULD RELOAD is to match the timing of the load to our shooting ( but in the case of the 16ga it is to have somthing to shoot ) for those that dont understand what this means .

You have to find a load that places an adiquate ( boy miss spelled that but have not the time to look it up ) amount of shot on the target within the shot string to match YOUR TIMING NOT ANYONE ELSES .

We have holes in shot strings that a dog can be thrown thru and places that it is very tight with pellets that is the location with in the shot swarm that your looking to place on the target , patterning on paper simply will never show you this you have to shoot flying targets to find this out ( ie ; clay birds ) before we go out plowing through the brush in search of game and wonder what went wrong when we find it .

As far as to Square loads , well all loads have holes in the pattern in flight you just have to find less of em to hit where your looking when you shoot a shotgun and find the spots that has more pellets to hit where your looking BY MATCHING THE LOAD TO MATCH YOUR TIMING .

I have just found the more compact loads to have less pockets of no pellets hence they are easier to hit a target harder with , no more no less .

Carry on , I have to go .

Regards , Charles

PS I hope I got this saying said right for I am in a hurry and have not re read it . Whew .

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Short shot string was figured out but winchester 60+ years ago

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